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TheUnforgiven1 · #1 (**permalink**) 01 May 2005, 04:37

Now... I dont know if this was suggested but I thought of something... In order for a elve to use the bonus he/her gets they must have spys.... now knowing that, the more the spys for the bonus the less money they make... I am not an Elve, but I thought this might make it a little more fair. How much does average unit make like 10-15 gold tbg right? now.... I dunno im thinking maybe ONLY for Elves, make it so the spys they train make like 5 TBG. its still way less then any other races tbg but its something. Like say an elve has 40k soldiers and has 20k of them as spys. He will be making less then half of what an human would be. but in order for them to use that bonus they need to train spys. so i am just suggesting that u make it so the spys that elves train, give off just a LITTLE bit of TBG....

I dunno if anyone else likes this idea.... but this is just once again another wacky idea from me....

SomeDude1214 · #2 (**permalink**) 01 May 2005, 05:09

Skylight has it set to where humans and ONLY humans can enjoy an extra gold bonus and it seems he intends to keep it that way.

eusair · #3 (**permalink**) 01 May 2005, 05:47

back when skylight wasn't so busy, we had some pleasant correspondence. i'd send him my thoughts/calculations, and he'd respond in a timely fashion. i miss those days.

here is his reply (Feb 23) to a PM i'd sent him.

Quote:

Originally Posted by skylight

Hi,

Thanks for the info.
I knew about this. Some players judge on the surface and thought that human or elves are strong. but each of the race are comparatively strong.

i dont think i will add tbg to spy. but i will see about that.

Regards,
Neon

Quote:

Originally Posted by eusair

if i had 2 extra DA upgrades, my DA would be 2,921,409,315 and it would've cost me just 245,760,000 gold to buy them. that much gold will buy 630 weapons of 6,000 strength at 390,000 gold each. since i don't have those 2 extra DA upgrades, were i to buy those 630 weapons, my DA would be just 1,540,556,308. therefore, i would have to buy an additional 1,750 weapons at 390,000 gold each, for a total of 682,500,000 gold just to keep up (not including the 25% race bonus).

orcs and dwarves have the luxury of spending that 682,500,000 gold on their other stats. humans account for it by earning more tbg and having cheaper weapons than the other races. elves, on the other hand, have to pull it out of their ass.

i propose that elves should receive 15 tbg per trained spy.

cheers, eusair.

i can't be sure, but i would like to think that skylight notices all the evidence scattered around here, but just hasn't taken the time to examine it fully. my mind would be at ease, skylight, if only you would acknowledge that an imbalance still exists and that you SEE the efforts being made to understand and correct that imbalance.

TheUnforgiven1 · #4 (**permalink**) 01 May 2005, 14:11

Quote:

Originally Posted by SomeDude1214

Skylight has it set to where humans and ONLY humans can enjoy an extra gold bonus and it seems he intends to keep it that way.

im not so sure.... see you are right on one thing, humans have the bonus in gold. But Elves have like a 150% disadvantage in gold. In order for them to even use thier bonus they have to lose much money. Not to mention it cost money to spy which is what they do best. See my whole point here is, in order for elves to use the bonus they must sacrafice the tbg, in which no other race does, like for orcs trained attack soldiers still give u money, same with dwarves and defensive soldiers, and humans well they get money for pretty much anything but spys. But I am saying, why not give elves ,not much but, at least some tbg for spys seeing in order to even use the bonus they wont have money. This seems to be a GIANT disadvantage to me. And I dont think skylight will intend to keep it that way, maybe its what he would say now, but I am sure that since elves around here keep talking about the disadvantages, he will one day see that he needs to do something about it

350Z · #5 (**permalink**) 01 May 2005, 17:31

Quote:

Originally Posted by TheUnforgiven1

Now... I dont know if this was suggested but I thought of something... In order for a elve to use the bonus he/her gets they must have spys.... now knowing that, the more the spys for the bonus the less money they make... I am not an Elve, but I thought this might make it a little more fair. How much does average unit make like 10-15 gold tbg right? now.... I dunno im thinking maybe ONLY for Elves, make it so the spys they train make like 5 TBG. its still way less then any other races tbg but its something. Like say an elve has 40k soldiers and has 20k of them as spys. He will be making less then half of what an human would be. but in order for them to use that bonus they need to train spys. so i am just suggesting that u make it so the spys that elves train, give off just a LITTLE bit of TBG....

I dunno if anyone else likes this idea.... but this is just once again another wacky idea from me....

Look in the topic I made. Thats onw suggestion I made.

sheepz · #6 (**permalink**) 02 May 2005, 19:21

good to see non elves are understanding what we are going through

adelaidebull · #7 (**permalink**) 02 May 2005, 22:08

Elves should have the full TBG rate for spies and the other races should have zero TBG for spies.

eusair · #8 (**permalink**) 03 May 2005, 00:38

that would likely be excessive, since other races usually train more spies than elves do. it is rather difficult to say what a good number might be, but it is probably down around 15 for a trained spy.

incognito · #9 (**permalink**) 03 May 2005, 01:20

Quote:

Originally Posted by eusair

that would likely be excessive, since other races usually train more spies than elves do. it is rather difficult to say what a good number might be, but it is probably down around 15 for a trained spy.

Agreed. Right now elves are the most unbenificial race.

TheUnforgiven1 · #10 (**permalink**) 03 May 2005, 04:15

but once again I think we all need to relize that trainig spys for those races is kinda optional, but for those elves they need to train them for the bonus, once again I am NOT an elve but i feel thier pain