Early usage of some attack turns

[mikaloyd]

Almost none of the better players use ANY turns whatsoever in the very early going. Im not one of those better players so I do use some attack turns VERY early on.

Ive seen enough posts here which imply that early turn users like myself are many terrible things ranging from braindead to defilers of The One True and Pure Way of Playing MediWar (amen). Which is fine. I see why you might think that way. If you attack now you might get as much as twenty thousand gold. In three weeks those same attacks might net you as much as 20 million gold.

A person would be a braindead defiler to squander turns like that.
I suppose so if you choose to look at it from that one myopic point of view.
Here is another angle which puts the early use of attack turns in a somewhat better light.


First the static rationale of using some turns early.

week three, 15 attack turns = 20,000,000 gold +weapons damage

day two 15 turns = 20,000 = another UP in day two =30,000,000 (ish) gold by 30th day

30,000,000 is bigger than 20,000,000 with weapons damage so 15 turns might be used by someone other than an idiot early in the game.

[350Z]

Yeah but people using 15 turns in the first day of the age are just plain mad. Look at the attack some1 made on me:
Jun 01, 2005 casale2a Attack defended 15 0 0 0 0 details
He got nothing but wasted 15 turns.

[IanCWU]

Mika! Shhhh! You're giving away the secret!

I attacked yesterday and got ~40k off of two people. I appreciate the UP I got from it immensely. I'm just afraid I'm at the top of some people's target lists now. Oh well, bring it on! Maybe I should add that to my signature: defiler of The One True and Pure Way of Playing MediWar (amen). That's pretty funny.

-Ian

[dragonslayer132]

I can understand attacking on day 4 or 5. You might be able to net yourself a million gold and buy 2 or 3 UP. And 1 UP does not get you 30million gold in the end. Using some turns in the beginning is not bad at all. You can get a little jump on UP. Maybe 100 or 200 turns max. But using any more than that would be suicide on the account (well for top 10 stats). Last age I did not use any turns at all until around day 25.... But than that involved me having to stay up til like 3 or 4 in the morning to use up all of my turns. I think there is a certain advantage to attacking early, but you have to know how to do it correctly and to not use too many turns.

[mikaloyd]

I believe that an UP at the start of the game nets more than 31million gold. for all races save humans who get even more. Payout goes down each turn an Upgrade to Producfion isnt bought until at the last turn of the game when the payout is Zero.

Maybe I hit the wrong key on a calculator though. How much do you think an UP pays in gold over the course of the game?

And dont 15 turns get wasted on the 25th day for no gold the same as they do on the first? The difference being that on the 25th besides not getting any gold for a failed attack it costs millions of gold to repair the weapons?

[SomeDude1214]

No one is stupid for either strategy, whatever works best for you. If you can do good with the "stupid" way then do it the "stupid" way and it all depends on what you're going for. Maybe your not going for overall rank or maybe you don't care and just want to have fun so it doesn't matter to you what your ranked. Either way, no one should be calling anyone stupid for using a strategy that works for you whether it works for them or not. As for the gold earned by unit production, somewhere on the forums someone made something that calculates that for you but I will have to find the topic to tell you for sure. If you can find it then maybe it'll help answer your question

[eusair]

i actually tested this, to a certain degree. back in round 5 attacked fairly often throughout the 1st 3 weeks and had a UP of 461 and finished 5th. then in round 6 i didn't use a single attack turn until about day 20. my UP was just 361 and i finished 3rd.

unfortunately, the only one who has my final stats is skylight, so i can't compare them. however, you could say that my rank pretty much tells the whole story. they are the same when you consider that DEYAP and zmpouf weren't 'playing' in round 6.

to say which method is better is all but impossible. there are so many other factors to be considered. nevertheless, i used the latter strategy again in round 7 and reached UP 395. i haven't decided what i'll do this round.

[SomeDude1214]

Yeah it all depends what you do with the strategy. You can be successful with both if you use them right.

[SomeDude1214]

Yeah it all depends what you do with the strategy, you can be successful with both if you use them right.

*am broke teh rules,. no double posting!!!!!-zelor*

[FirePenguins]

The other thing is that you ahve to buy weapons to use if you want to attack and that money could also go to UP. If you know you can get good attacks with than it could be worth it but as was already pointed out you can also get nothing for your turns.