Ok, The races are even, read this if you dont understand

[TheUnforgiven1]

Ok, I am sorry to say this but everyone here is getting on my nerves arguing about this crap. Before everyone was just arguing about getting fairness for elves and they had a point, so now that theres something added for them they have a fiar game now, then now the humans start b1tching about how "OOOO this isnt fair we should have more tbg" The fact is NO you shouldnt have more TBG you still already have MORE tbg then any other race with or without tbg spys. Humans still have the lead for gold, Elves now have a fair game, before it was pretty much IMPOSSIBLE for a elve to win in an arena much less compete. I am an ORC but im not b1tching about how OOOO those humans have way more money then me heres what a human has:

More TBG - You make more then any other race per turn
Safty of gold when attacked - meaning if someone farmed u and you had 5 million sitting around and I had 5 million sitting around, same actions and everything that someone would have an easier chance of taking 4 million to all the 5 million of my gold which they would only make off with like 3mil or so of yours

to me those are MAJOR bonus because do you know what the most needed thing in the game is.... GOLD. thats what you humans get its more GOLD. So I am an orc I got a 162 million upgrade that doubles my SA, kinda hard to get therte though when I dont make as much and everyone farms every last piece of gold I got isnt it?

I am sorry but the field is EVEN now, humans go cry if u want, the truth is that NO RACE SHOULD BE THE BEST RACE! NO one race has the right to have an dramatic advantage in the playing field so now that its fair you all believe you should get more? So Elves have a few more things then the rest of the races here lemme define them for you

+25% Covert Bonus - Yes they get that help in what they do best and thats spy, but what did they have to do in order to use that? train spys which dramatically drops there TBG. NO other race needs to lose anything in order to use thier bonus so why should the elves have such a disovantage?

Less cost to spy - They can spy for cheaper, its what they do best anyway. So boohoo... it may cost them 2,000 gold less then it cost any of us to spy, thats only like a big advantage the first few days, but later on thats nothing once so ever so dont make a big deal about it

Recon Gold - Instead of attacking they can steal your gold through spys, they need 2 things for this, Covert Action, thats where thier bonus plays, and attack turns because it still uses turns. Now I personally have never seen more then maybe 2, 3 million stolen from a recon gold, thats not to much later on, not to mention the much money they wasted in training the spys that died.

Spy 15 TBG - Thier spys make 15 tbg, thats still less then a human makes with the bonus if he were to have the same amount of units and a elve had some spys. Before a elve would be knocked down in the playing field because they need those spys for thier bonus and if they trained em they lost TBG, not really fair they lose that when no other race does...? Dose an orc lose TBG for a trained attack soldier? does a dwarve for a defensive? does a human lose if he trains the soldiers seeing its considered your untrained bringing in the money? No other race lost anything for thier bonus



Now, I am tired of watching you all complain about all this, just read all this and understand that the field is even and no one deserves to have anything added just because another race gets something. So the Elves have some more TBG now, so... HUMANS SHUT UP! YOU GUYS STILL MAKE MORE THEN ALL RACES! And you have the odds to keep the gold if attacked


I am sorry if I offened anyone, but I am tired of explaining myself, so I figured I would just make this in one thread for you all to see

[SomeDude1214]

I agree but might I add that humans also get cheaper weapons. This helps ALOT because weapons are constantly being bought and only humans can get them cheaper AND they have extra gold so they can get more weapons with the extra gold they earn per turn and then save some of that with it being cheaper.

[TheUnforgiven1]

SEE!! lol, more and more reasons for ya'll to stop complaining. If I could describe how HORRIBLE it is for me to repair weapons later on ooo man you would die, humans you guy would probally freak. You should be happy witht hat money because for us, when we go to attack ppl, half if not more, of the gold goes to just repairing the attack we made

[tuSAra]

My 2 cents as an elf: If you're human you have to be sitting on a lot of gold for me to attack or gold recon. Turns are precious, and I hate not only losing 20% off the top - but add in the random factor. To me this gives a humans a safety factor.

Now, before all the humans scream about getting attacked by others, I am specifying my attack procedure. As I look at it, it seems the races are pretty well balanced. Of course, the only perfect way to balance is to remove all bonuses - but that also removes the element of strategy.

[hoih]

humans aren't the best race, look, orcs have with the same weapons like 3 times higher attack, you can't buy that back with some extra gold!

[TheUnforgiven1]

no see hoih this is what your missing out on, im trying to prove that there is NO best race. All of them are balanced but all the humans recently thinkt hat they are the worst. They are all fine, so ya orcs get that bonus, but humans have that money which adds up in the end. How are us orcs supposed to catch them when they already got three times the stats we do and already have all that tbg... they are all equal, any race can win now, its just a matter of strategy

[PapaBear]

The topic said "heres prrof", Sorry, but I don't see any. Just you opinion. The proof will come in time.

[eusair]

i agree, mav. i wouldn't call this proof. however, i must say that it is a very good and accurate outline of the truth of things, written in laymans terms that everybody should be able to understand.

and, yes. proof will come in time. i will be providing concrete proof that humans are still the strongest of all races and elves are still the weakest. i won't be doing it to instigate more bitching or because i intend to try convincing skylight that further changes should be made. rather, i'll do it simply because i like to solve puzzles/problems. i like the challenge.

maybe by the time i'm done, i'll have decided not even to post the results. i, too, am getting tired of this. the fun is being taken out of it all by the lack of intellectual integrity, mutual respect, and maturity on the part of many.

[TheUnforgiven1]

if u actally read it while in the topic, you will notice that I had already changed the name of the topic, but it doesnt change the way it says it out there

[PapaBear]

All I am reading is the same blah blah as before. Like we needed antoher thread about this.