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triniacemagellan · #21 (**permalink**) 18 Apr 2006, 09:32

Ginji as thunder would win

boolala · #22 (**permalink**) 21 Apr 2006, 21:33

Definitely Ginji... He lost only because he is not serious enough...

seinken · #23 (**permalink**) 22 Apr 2006, 02:32

I think Ginji win in 100%.

Dr Jackal is a strong character, but Ginji 100% in Mugenjou is more stronger than him...

But i don't know true skills of Dr Jackal...Perhaps...

mitani · #24 (**permalink**) 25 Apr 2006, 01:53

Was Ginji ever really at 100% thunder emperor? I mean, the fact that he can still wake up from being thunder emperor means he isn't at 100%. He kinda woke up pretty quickly from his 'trance'. He probably still has control then...

Didn't he leave infinity city so that the Thunder Emperor side of him wouldn't completely take over? He said it himself that if he stayed he'd loose himself to the Thunder Emperor and eventually destroy infinity city and his friends. I mean normal Ginji outside infinity city can block bullets and create hurricanes/tornados by manipulating energy in particles and static energy. >.> I think that says something.

Ginji is the only real character who hasn't shown everything he's got because if he did it'd be everyone vs him since Thunder emperor is supposedly an existentialist and exists outside the laws of good and evil (pure instinct and oblivious to his surroundings).

We saw Akabane loose to Ban really badly and Thunder emperor is supposed to have complete control over the world inside infinity city due to the fact that he doesn't really think but wills it (which is why even Makubex cannot keep normal non-Raitei Ginji from beating his ass in infinity city). Maybe if Akabane can tap into infinity city's power then he'd get stronger.

Ofcourse it's just an opinion. =/

Oh yeah! don't forget the killer body guard. Rekishi or smthing like that. He's supposed to be un-killable...seems that way too. I wonder how he'd fair if he could tap into infinity city's powers.

Mateos · #25 (**permalink**) 26 Apr 2006, 01:27

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Originally Posted by mitani

Was Ginji ever really at 100% thunder emperor? I mean, the fact that he can still wake up from being thunder emperor means he isn't at 100%. He kinda woke up pretty quickly from his 'trance'. He probably still has control then...

Didn't he leave infinity city so that the Thunder Emperor side of him wouldn't completely take over? He said it himself that if he stayed he'd loose himself to the Thunder Emperor and eventually destroy infinity city and his friends. I mean normal Ginji outside infinity city can block bullets and create hurricanes/tornados by manipulating energy in particles and static energy. >.> I think that says something.

Ginji is the only real character who hasn't shown everything he's got because if he did it'd be everyone vs him since Thunder emperor is supposedly an existentialist and exists outside the laws of good and evil (pure instinct and oblivious to his surroundings).

We saw Akabane loose to Ban really badly and Thunder emperor is supposed to have complete control over the world inside infinity city due to the fact that he doesn't really think but wills it (which is why even Makubex cannot keep normal non-Raitei Ginji from beating his ass in infinity city). Maybe if Akabane can tap into infinity city's power then he'd get stronger.

Ofcourse it's just an opinion. =/

Oh yeah! don't forget the killer body guard. Rekishi or smthing like that. He's supposed to be un-killable...seems that way too. I wonder how he'd fair if he could tap into infinity city's powers.

You are somewhat correct. In the battle between Akabane and Ginji
we see that Ginji reaches his 99% thunder emperor status. That's why he was able the revert back to normal Ginji when Ban blocked Akabane's sword. Plus, when Ban beat Akabane, Akabane still lived. However, in the battle I first mentionned, Dr.Jackal was pretty much controling Ginji and was going to kill him, but....as I mentionned before, Ban blocked the attack with his shoulder. I don't think 1 more measly percent would have made much difference. Or we would have seen MUCH more lightning when Ginji was at 99%.

darkzob · #26 (**permalink**) 26 Apr 2006, 04:43

i think akabane woul win they both bout the same strong but akbane doesnt hesitate to kill he would kill ginji at any opening or chance he gets ginji would most likely just try to hurt akabane

Ana · #27 (**permalink**) 26 Apr 2006, 10:28

I think the Thunder Emperor would win.

mitani · #28 (**permalink**) 26 Apr 2006, 20:27

Ginji at 100% is Raitei at 100% and thus not really ginji anymore. There actually aren't any numbers involved like Krusnik from trinity blood where he says Krusnik 80% or whatever so we'll never truly know but the mere fact that Ginji was so easily able to avert back from thunder emperor in an instant just from the sight of seeing ban get stabbed is far from being thunder emperor because as i said before, thunder emperor is another side of ginji that he explained he can loose control over and therefor not really him anymore but a different personality that doesn't give a hoot about anything that goes around him (ex. ban being stabbed).

Besides ginji already has the ability to control the energy in matter. Imagine raitei making full use of that...he can blow anyone up if he wanted to since everyone is made up of particles that generate power and energy. Ginji being shocked by high voltage wires is also very funny but the fact that he can heal from that and that he draws on energy around him would make him invincible... assuming there is a power source close enough around him (hint: infinity city itself).

Aha! My friend the "Dominator" had just reminded me of a very important saying that Akabane had said! He said he wanted to see how far he could go with his abilities so he went, as you say 100% Akabane on Ginji. Akabane was enjoying the fight and wanted to test his own capabilities. Sadly Ban got stabbed instead, but that surely was akabane at his full strewngth at the time. He was pushed to wanting to go all out on ginji! WOOSH!

Fuuu! Wapak wapka pak pak pak!

Ckackle racka ka kashoom! Vrooom!

Oh oh ginji also came up against an opponent that were two brothers that inhabited the same body. One of them had the ability to change a sword to create black holes or a very powerfull vaccume that ginji over powered with his brute lighting strength! But you have to remember! this happens outside infinity city! and he is just normal Ginji!!! Oh he can create walls that block bullets! and make tornadoes that blow up in your face! That's normal ginji!!!!!!

promaster · #29 (**permalink**) 29 Apr 2006, 13:30

50/50 i think.

ko0l · #30 (**permalink**) 29 Apr 2006, 14:42

Ginji will probaly win if he was at 100% but hes noob when he is outside that tower(forgot wat it was called)